Comments on: The Clash Of The Thugs: Shall We Take Sides? http://www.bigpharaoh.org/2012/07/12/the-clash-of-the-thugs-shall-we-take-sides/ Mon, 20 May 2013 02:21:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Ali http://www.bigpharaoh.org/2012/07/12/the-clash-of-the-thugs-shall-we-take-sides/#comment-433129 Ali Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:04:19 +0000 http://www.bigpharaoh.org/?p=1726#comment-433129 Dear readers of this website, Ramadan Kareem. God is not a Delusion — A book by a Muslim doctor presents arguemnts against atheism. This book is out in the market now. Please visit the following link for details. https://www.createspace.com/3772911 Kind regards, Ali Dear readers of this website,

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]]> By: احمد مدينة نصر http://www.bigpharaoh.org/2012/07/12/the-clash-of-the-thugs-shall-we-take-sides/#comment-432947 احمد مدينة نصر Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:59:15 +0000 http://www.bigpharaoh.org/?p=1726#comment-432947 Thank you for the write up as it painted a clear picture of the current reality. What are your thoughts on Hizb it Tahrir who have recently held a conference pertaining to a realistic alternative to the current system which seems to have been received quite well. We find faces changing in leadership but the underlying system is as corrupt as ever as can be seen with Scaf and how MB however smart they have tried playing it have been manipulated again and again after compromising many times on base principles? Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated as many people have failed I bring this discussion in to light? Surely, we need to now put aside prejudice and look at realistic alternatives to move out of this faltering state. Thank you for the write up as it painted a clear picture of the current reality.

What are your thoughts on Hizb it Tahrir who have recently held a conference pertaining to a realistic alternative to the current system which seems to have been received quite well.
We find faces changing in leadership but the underlying system is as corrupt as ever as can be seen with Scaf and how MB however smart they have tried playing it have been manipulated again and again after compromising many times on base principles?

Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated as many people have failed I bring this discussion in to light?

Surely, we need to now put aside prejudice and look at realistic alternatives to move out of this faltering state.

]]> By: Egypt: The Big Pharaoh grabs his Pop Corn :: Elites TV http://www.bigpharaoh.org/2012/07/12/the-clash-of-the-thugs-shall-we-take-sides/#comment-432924 Egypt: The Big Pharaoh grabs his Pop Corn :: Elites TV Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:28:41 +0000 http://www.bigpharaoh.org/?p=1726#comment-432924 [...] a lot of the cards of the game in their hands. This resulted in what Big Pharaoh called, “The Clash Of The Thugs“, a struggle between SCAF and the Brotherhood over who will have the upper hand in Egypt. [...] [...] a lot of the cards of the game in their hands. This resulted in what Big Pharaoh called, “The Clash Of The Thugs“, a struggle between SCAF and the Brotherhood over who will have the upper hand in Egypt. [...]

]]> By: Egypt: The Big Pharaoh grabs his Pop Corn · Global Voices http://www.bigpharaoh.org/2012/07/12/the-clash-of-the-thugs-shall-we-take-sides/#comment-432923 Egypt: The Big Pharaoh grabs his Pop Corn · Global Voices Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:46:20 +0000 http://www.bigpharaoh.org/?p=1726#comment-432923 [...] a lot of the cards of the game in their hands. This resulted in what Big Pharaoh called, “The Clash Of The Thugs“, a struggle between SCAF and the Brotherhood over who will have the upper hand in Egypt. [...] [...] a lot of the cards of the game in their hands. This resulted in what Big Pharaoh called, “The Clash Of The Thugs“, a struggle between SCAF and the Brotherhood over who will have the upper hand in Egypt. [...]

]]> By: Mirco Romanato http://www.bigpharaoh.org/2012/07/12/the-clash-of-the-thugs-shall-we-take-sides/#comment-432914 Mirco Romanato Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:22:26 +0000 http://www.bigpharaoh.org/?p=1726#comment-432914 I would suggest to support the SCAF just enough to keep them going against the MB. Never something compromising, but siding with them on principle when the reason arise. For example, when the Constitutional Court (or what it is called) ruled the election of the parliament unlawful and ordered to repeat them. The point is to prevent the MB from occupying all the strongholds of Egypt, like the Parliament, the Judiciary, etc. To show up they are not so powerful they are able to take everyone up and do as they like unopposed. You wrote the best reason to support the SCAF: they are old. If you are able to keep the MB from prevailing over the SCAF, the SCAF will be forced to compromise with the moderates to prevent the MB from gaining power. I would suggest to support the SCAF just enough to keep them going against the MB. Never something compromising, but siding with them on principle when the reason arise.

For example, when the Constitutional Court (or what it is called) ruled the election of the parliament unlawful and ordered to repeat them. The point is to prevent the MB from occupying all the strongholds of Egypt, like the Parliament, the Judiciary, etc.
To show up they are not so powerful they are able to take everyone up and do as they like unopposed.

You wrote the best reason to support the SCAF: they are old.
If you are able to keep the MB from prevailing over the SCAF, the SCAF will be forced to compromise with the moderates to prevent the MB from gaining power.

]]> By: Marion Chafik Charobim http://www.bigpharaoh.org/2012/07/12/the-clash-of-the-thugs-shall-we-take-sides/#comment-432906 Marion Chafik Charobim Sat, 14 Jul 2012 15:11:41 +0000 http://www.bigpharaoh.org/?p=1726#comment-432906 I couldn’t agree more & so would the larger percentage of Egyptians (just by adding votes voided in the 2nd round of presidential elections to those obtained by the Farik – we all know that these in addition to those of numerous who didn’t bother to show up at polling stations - would have gone to most any other liberal, non-Islamist candidate). I also liked your analysis of ‘where revolutionaries went wrong’. To make it right though and sooner than later, this majority has to get cracking. I don’t see them unite except under a strong leadership. How to get there? What is happening with the Dostour Party? I know the Masreyiin El-Ahrar, the Democraty & around 50 NGOs are holding some conference at the Al-Azhar next Monday evening. Should this be the start? Many questions..not enough answers & upcoming elections could be sooner than we think. I couldn’t agree more & so would the larger percentage of Egyptians (just by adding votes voided in the 2nd round of presidential elections to those obtained by the Farik – we all know that these in addition to those of numerous who didn’t bother to show up at polling stations – would have gone to most any other liberal, non-Islamist candidate). I also liked your analysis of ‘where revolutionaries went wrong’. To make it right though and sooner than later, this majority has to get cracking. I don’t see them unite except under a strong leadership. How to get there? What is happening with the Dostour Party? I know the Masreyiin El-Ahrar, the Democraty & around 50 NGOs are holding some conference at the Al-Azhar next Monday evening. Should this be the start? Many questions..not enough answers & upcoming elections could be sooner than we think.

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]]> By: Coptic-American http://www.bigpharaoh.org/2012/07/12/the-clash-of-the-thugs-shall-we-take-sides/#comment-432860 Coptic-American Fri, 13 Jul 2012 14:29:53 +0000 http://www.bigpharaoh.org/?p=1726#comment-432860 Interesting analysis. I understand the MB two-faceness. but with knowing that, wouldn't it be in the revolutions best interest to side with SCAF to put down the MB once and for all, then move against SCAF with a viable opposition? I sort of feel that siding with MB (or not siding with either) plays into the MBs hands to take over key positions (judiciary, education, economic), which would further entrench them, making the goal of a civil society that much harder since they can always claim, "we were elected, its democratic and civil." either way, I contend that Morsy does not last 1 year. Best of Luck! I dream of the day Egypt is a true civil and democratic society. Egypt has so much going for it and deserves the opportunity to be free so it can show the world how amazing a country it really is. Interesting analysis.

I understand the MB two-faceness. but with knowing that, wouldn’t it be in the revolutions best interest to side with SCAF to put down the MB once and for all, then move against SCAF with a viable opposition?

I sort of feel that siding with MB (or not siding with either) plays into the MBs hands to take over key positions (judiciary, education, economic), which would further entrench them, making the goal of a civil society that much harder since they can always claim, “we were elected, its democratic and civil.”

either way, I contend that Morsy does not last 1 year.

Best of Luck! I dream of the day Egypt is a true civil and democratic society. Egypt has so much going for it and deserves the opportunity to be free so it can show the world how amazing a country it really is.

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